March 1, 2009

Reality Check

As soon as I posted video of Schuyler communicating, the comments began. There were a lot of them saying something similar.

"I thought not only the 'good morning' but the 'what's that?' and the 'I want that' were pretty easily understood."

"Yes - I came here to comment on how 'good morning', 'what's that?' and 'I want that' were all perfectly clear, at least through that recording and the medium of the internet."

"Her speech was clearer than I expected, too, especially considering she had just woken up. I heard the 'Good morning,' 'What's that,' 'I want that' and I thought she said 'I fell on the floor.'"

"That 'good morning' sounded clearer than I sound when someone wakes me up!"

"She was pretty clear. I understood her."

"Like everyone says, those phrases were very clear!"

"Extremely clear AND right when she was waking up!"

"I could understand everything."

"Great job Schuyler... I can understand you just fine..."

"She speaks a lot more clearly than I imagined she did - I, too, can understand most of what she says."


I knew what people were saying, and I appreciated the sentiments behind the statements, and also the sort of literal truth of what they were saying. Still, at one point, I tried to moderate the tone a little with a "reality check" observation:

Her speech is getting a little clearer as she gets older, which is good news and a little bit of a surprise. She still does much better when you have a fairly good idea what she's likely to be saying. And it's funny how much of what we say in a day falls within the bounds of often-repeated "catch phrases" like "good morning and "i love you".

When she launches into a monologue about something at random and you don't have any context for it, it goes back to being pure Martian. Well, baby steps.

But I knew it was only a matter of time before someone said it:

After reading this blog for so long, I was really surprised at how easy it was to understand Schuyler's speech. Yes, she's missing some consonants, but she is much more understandable than you have been making her sound in your descriptions.

The tone was friendly, but the implied message was clear: I have been misrepresenting the extent of Schuyler's disability.

I was struggling to find the right words to respond to this, but then, two commenters on the blog spelled it out better than I could, and with the added advantage of an outside perspective.

The first was anonymous, not surprising since he/she was discussing a family member:
My dad, who is almost completely disabled and has an overwhelming number of health problems, is a highly intelligent man whose physical problems have begun to overwhelm his brain. Even on very bad days, he has an uncanny ability to appear to be communicating far better than he is actually managing to do.

He does this in part by accessing rote forms of speech that let people assume that he's responded appropriately, even if he has not actually followed the conversation correctly. People are often poor listeners, and frequently "hear" what they expect to, rather than what was actually said. This doesn't mean, though, that the speaker has been understood.

I am frequently amazed when other people tell me how lucid he is on days when he most certainly is not. The difference is very clear to me, even if others can't see it in the course of the sort of formulaic conversational exchanges that make up most of his day in his nursing home.

I, too, am surprised that some of Schuyler's speech is so clear, but it seems to me that much of what is clear is also very basic. This in no way diminishes the wonder of that clarity, but the ability to say phrases like "good morning" and that wonderful word "Mama" doesn't imply that discussing ideas or other complexities are also possible.

You describe Schuyler so well that it's impossible not to feel that we know her, at least a little. Your writing about her acknowledges the complexities of her character and her life; I don't see that you have in any way implied that her verbal expression is radically different than what we see here.

It's fairly easy to assume what a bouncy, bright child may be saying at a mall, just as it's easy for people to assume that they know what my dad is saying about his day. But it's quite another matter to discuss ideas, feelings, or interpretations when there are physical limitations to speech. And that, I think, you describe very well in your writings.

And Karen is even more direct:

Well, I'm kind of going against the flow here, but I thought Schuyler was understandable if you were listening carefully, if you knew the context of the situation, and if you had a pretty good idea of what she would say. But if I were to listen to an audio recording of her speaking and didn't have any clues as to what she might be speaking about, I would have had a very hard time understanding her. Her "Good morning" in the previous post was clear, but most of what she said was in this post was understandable because of the context. Even with knowing the context of being in a mall, I can't imagine how complicated it would be if she'd said something like, "Hey Dad, did you remember that store we went to the last time we were here? I saw an ad for them on TV last night and they're having a sale on these really cool T-shirts. Can we go there after lunch and get one?"

And, though it pains me to say this, I didn't think she talked as much as a lot of neuro-typical nine-year-old girls would have in a similar situation. Maybe that's because of her personality. Some kids are more talkative than others. But it could also be because communicating (both verbally and through her BBOW) is frustrating. Certainly it would frustrate me to have to work at something that everyone else seems to do effortlessly. She's a lovely girl, and it's a joy to see and hear her. But I think it seems easy to understand her because a lot of us hear what we want to hear or expect to hear when we're talking to others. It must be hell for her when she wants to bring up a new subject, or have a lengthy in-depth conversation.
They both understand perfectly. They are both absolutely one hundred percent correct.

I understand the desire to hear clear, intelligible speech coming from Schuyler, and it is undeniable that her verbal communication has improved dramatically since we came to Plano and especially since she began using the Big Box of Words.

But there's a hard reality to Schuyler's communication, and some real limits to her spoken language, something that goes beyond "missing some consonants". (She's missing most of them, incidentally.) Acknowledging that particular reality doesn't close doors for her, and it doesn't mean giving up on her. The first step to helping Schuyler, however, comes in understanding exactly where she is and what her current limitations are. Wanting or even needing to believe the monster is smaller than it is, well, that's an impulse I understand completely.

But as far as Julie and I are concerned, sizing up that monster is an important first step. We need proper measurements in order to correctly tailor its Ass-beating Suit.

42 comments:

People in the Sun said...

It must have been difficult to read that comment. I guess speech is not a black-and-white ability, but at the same time, people aren't black and white, and I have to hope the commenter was just confused and didn't try to hurt you there or to imply you were disingenuous.

Anonymous said...

Speaking as a speech-language pathologist, the two commentors you highlighted have hit the nail on the head - keep the videos coming Rob.

Possibly one where the context is unknown and then people will "get it"? I videotape kids all the time for Committee members (who decide service levels....even though they have NEVER seen the child - don't get me started)to watch when I know they won't understand the effect a child's lack of communication has on their life.

I have directed many of my collegues to your blog and your book is being passed around. I have really enjoyed your perspective as a parent. Thanks for sharing your daughter with us!

Unknown said...

I wasn't around for the original thread, but consider whether some of the comments about Schuyler's speech were intended not in the "Christ, you ass, you've been misrepresenting your daughter's disability," but more along the lines of "I've been reading you for years and have watched Schuyler grow up from afar, and man, are we pulling for her. It's freaking GREAT that she can speak this clearly." That said, the caveats about context and rote speech are clearly right on the money.

Robert Hudson said...

Oh, I think I was pretty clear about the spirit in which I believe almost all of the original comments were made. I don't think anyone was being malicious.

Niksmom said...

Rob, this was absolutely worth the wait. Though my son doesn't speak, he does sign some and can make himself fairly well understood...but only within certain contexts. Change the context or give him unexpected curcumstances and he cannot begin to adapt his communication at this point.

I think those of us who have children with significant speech/language & communication problems (or those who work with our kids) get it.

Without the video, to watch Schuyler's lips while she spoke, I'm not sure I could've understood some of what she had to say. But I love the sound of her little voice. :-)

Leigh C. said...

Bottom line: context is everything and nothing all at the same time. When regularly-functioning kids are learning to speak, those who are constantly around them are so immersed in their attempts and so understanding of those attempts that when others walk into the situation for a day and can't get that "duh" means "juice", or some such thing, the context doesn't mean a thing unless the newcomers become immersed in it themselves.

Bless the folks who are taking the time to get more than a glimpse of Schuyler's life and all of y'all's struggles with the monster...but the average schmo off the street is still going to intuit that something is wrong somehow, is probably gonna have a hard time with it, and that sort of unpredictability is still a scary thing for most people. I wish it weren't.

This is not to diminish what is going on with Schuyler at all - it's simply that the situation is complex, and I'm glad the comments you've highlighted illuminate that.

BigRed said...

Of course, many apologies of the effect of our comments lead you to think that we were diminishing your daughter's disabilities. There is much more to the picture than we can see as outsiders, and your clarification was well-spoken and needed.

On a side note, I recall a video that you posted of Schuyler using her BBoW (what seems like ages ago)...the "I want grapes" video? It certainly seems that she has improved greatly since that short snippet. You, Julie, and her school must be doing an incredible job.

Michelle said...

I have never thought you were misinterpreting the extent of her disability. You guys are with her every day - you know the challenges of determining how severe this monster is far better than any of us out here in blogland. Thanks for your amazing ability to describe what you are going through in the written word. I was excited to see the beautiful Schuyler in action.

MS said...

Despite reading for nearly a year, I've never commented. I've started to half a dozen times, but always stopped before I actually posted.
I'm a special education teacher who has worked with students who use "big boxes of words". At a conference several years ago, every time I stopped at a booth, Barry Romich was behind me, so we clearly had the same interests! And he had to listen to my story about 2 of my students over & over & over again.
Both students were very intelligent, had been told they weren't very intelligent, had parents who fought for them, and used various versions of BBOWs. And, with both of them, after several years of working with them, I was able to understand some of what they would say without the voice-output. The same holds true for other students I've worked with at times. A lot of it depends, as you've noted, on context and having a good idea of what might be said in that situation. But... and this is something I heard a whole lot, "If you can understand them, why do they need..."
And the answer is because teenagers going to McDonald's don't bring along their Mom, Dad or Teacher as a translator. So there might not be somebody there who understands them. The other answer is because just because they can say "Good Morning" or "Mama" clearly that doesn't meant they can communicate their other thoughts in the same clear fashion.
Oh, and despite my experience, I did have to watch the videos twice, with the sound slightly louder than normal to ensure I was understanding. And, like you, I totally missed the one with the fingers in the mall.
Great videos; I love the opportunity to see the communication happening!

MFA Mama said...

You're being very gracious about this. I would probably be tempted to go on a tirade. I have three children with various special needs (two have developmental delays, all three have a genetic syndrome that causes a constellation of health issues, mostly minor in our case, and the youngest has severe food allergies and eats via g-tube) and with my two who have the developmental delays (which primarily affect their socialization, communication, and behavior) my absolute least-favorite thing to hear (even when it's meant as a positive observation or reassurance) is "they seem so NORMAL!" I hear it mostly from well-meaning parties, and always have to force myself to take a deep breath and not jump right in with "sure, because of YEARS OF THERAPY and because you're an unfamiliar person and if you watch closely they're falling down WAY more than the other kids on the playground, but yes they're doing remarkably well TODAY and at first glance they don't stick out as gimps which I guess is good until they DO stick out so maybe it's bad and yes I know that all kids fall. Thank you. Asshole." I think part of why this is so very aggravating is not so much the idea that these people are challenging the veracity of what I've told them about my kids, but that a) this is the kind of well-meaning denial that makes it so hard to get my kids the services and accommodations they need, b) they're trying to make it "not so bad!" for...who, exactly? I'm obviously not going to go "hey, y'know you're RIGHT, yay!" so I have to conclude this is a verbal form of the "LOOK AWAY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!" reaction my kids sometimes get in public and c) when people feel the need to "defend" my kids to me by minimizing their struggles it makes me sad because don't they realize I am those kids' number-one advocate, their greatest defender, and have made myself vulnerable a little by talking to them about what's wrong with my kids to begin with?

I smiled when Schuyler said "Good morning" and especially when she said "mama;" that must be wonderful for Julie to hear. But I in no way took the words Schuyler said clearly on the videos as representative of her overall verbal abilities. To me they seemed like examples of some of her best speech, which of course you would want to show off and were kind enough to share with her fans online. Nothing more, and of course, nothing less :)

Anonymous said...

If I hadn't seen the video accompaniment I wouldn't have understood most of what she said...it's all context. But it was lovely to hear, nonetheless.

She's *so* beautiful, Rob, and she's just like every other 9-year-old. "What is that? Give it to me. I want to play with it."

Gotta love it.

Kyla said...

I totally understand this. It can be difficult to temper enthusiasm with the realities. I've had this experience many times. You articulated it well here.

Lauri said...

I get it.. I do... not the same thing but my daughter has severe adhd... we think that is all, we are still figuring everything out.. but people spend an hour with her and tell me she is perfectly fine.

I am sick of people taking my proactive advocating methods as if I am just being a negative nelly.

Galen said...

When I read the comments on the original post, I, too, felt that they unintentionally tended to minimize the extent of Schuyler's problem. And, as a parent, I know that it can be frustrating when that happens. You've done a good job here addressing the issue.

I haven't had to deal with any major speech/language issues with my own kids; even my daughter who has very severe CP was miraculously able to speak fairly clearly. But my mother had a stroke 4 months ago and has severe aphasia, so I'm able to relate on some small way to your experience. Sometimes when I call her, the oonversation begins with a strikingly clear sentence like, "Oh, I'm doing OK." I hold my breath, thinking that perhaps some synapse in her brain has reconnected overnight. But then the stream of gobbledygook begins and I struggle SO hard to understand even the general topic of the conversation. Basically, if there are no visual cues to help me and I'm not in control of the conversation, I'm lost. I imagine it's sort of like that with your daughter.

cee said...

Yeah, this was something I wanted to say, but I also did remember what you'd said previously about her Martian monologues. It seems like a person in her situation might even choose to stick to a couple of phrases she could get out without much trouble - I know you guys aren't sure if Schuyler has other delays, but in your stories she always seems like a pretty canny navigator of her world. It was heartening to see that she has phrases she can use as tools to get by in some situations. At the same time, I can see how you guys feel it's necessary to reinforce to people that just because she can communicate "Good morning" doesn't mean there aren't miles left to go.

Melissa said...

I don't think you misrepresent Schuyler's disability at all. I think any time when you might have even had the impulse to do that is long past. In fact, when I clicked on that video I expected anything she said TO sound like Martian, because I have gotten the impression that she is completely unintelligible unless you are her parents. I was thrilled to hear that yes, clearly she has very little speech, but that SOMETHING she says can be understood. I think you are painfully honest about everything having to do with Schuyler's monster, and that we were all just excited to hear a little tiny bit of her.

Anonymous said...

I am the person who posted the message you quoted.

I just want to make it perfectly clear that my response was coming from exactly the mindset that ladydistain voiced in the earlier comment.

I did not intend in any way to suggest that she isn't facing enormous challenges or doesn't need intensive support. But because I have known some adults, including a sibling, who have far less speech than Schuyler does-- no control at all over any muscles in their mouths, I was surprised and happy for her that she has the ability she has.

Anonymous said...

I loved hearing Schuyler talk with both her voice and her BBOW. I do get it. The difference between a few words you can understand in context and an actual conversation is a vast ocean.

My daughter will never speak but we do get an occasional "yeah" or "uh-huh". But she can't tell us how she feels about the current IEP or whether she would prefer inclusion or not or what her dreams for the future are.

I think the most frustrating thing for me is looking at my daughter, and Schyuler for that matter, and seeing vibrant, clever, fun kids who can't share their view of the world easily. I would love to know what Schyuler was thinking while she did the puzzle at the pizza place. The look on her face was mesmerizing.

I don't think anyone meant to say Rob wasn't conveying her disability fairly, but I also think it is important to realize that an intelligible "good morning" doesn't mean life is easy.

Karen said...

I'm just glad that you understood that I wasn't trying to dismiss the progress she's already made. I almost didn't post because I didn't want to sound like an ass. She's made amazing strides from simply not speaking at all and I knew that most posters were just celebrating her acomplishments rather than trying to deny her disability.

Rich said...

Still think it's great progress, and glad you cleared some things up for some of us. ... Perhaps it's the fact I have a niece who has a very bad speech impediment, and as a child, she was extremely hard to understand... She still is in fact, when she gets on a rant, it's like the words count out faster then the mouth can react. So, maybe I'm a bit bias...

beej said...

I was thrilled to hear Schuyler speak, and in many ways she was easier to understand than I expected her to be; however, it was also quite clear to me that mainly what I was picking up on was context. Asking a child what they want to eat and hearing them reply "pizza" is expected and thus you can understand it easily; if you'd removed the question from in front of that word, I wouldn't have been able to decipher what she was saying. Add this to the fact that she seems quite good with body language (her face is very expressive, which adds to her understandability), and yes, watching her answer questions means that you can follow her fairly easily at times. But as other posters have said, independent ideas (rather than answers to questions) would make it difficult.

I noted that she used the Box of Words to speak to the waitress, and tried to imagine her giving her meal order in her own voice, and I see not only where the frustration must lie for her in communication, but also why the Box of Words is necessary. I do not think you have misrepresented her in the slightest.

Incidentally, she's an amazing beautiful, lively little girl. Thanks for posting these.

Anonymous said...

I mentioned that some words were easily understood, but my thought was kind of a "You go girl" to Schuyler. I kind of think that many other comments had to do with a similar sentiment. I was also excited to know that she had some phrases in her repertory, since I really didn't know if there were any words that could be understood except by you or Julie.

It's funny how much context figures in to how much we understand, be it with verbal or written language. My husband has a hard time understanding my toddler unless the context is explicitly clear. As a result, she's stopped talking to him very much and asks "Where's Mommy?"


Laura

Anonymous said...

This post went a long way in helping me understand my frustration over people who minimize my daughter's speech issues as well (she also has a brain malformation). Yes, she can be understood, but there's lots of rote stuff going on. Anything with subtlety or without a lot of nouns gets lost in translation.

I've read your blog since before Schuyler was born and it was so great to see her "in action".

Ally in Wonderland said...

So I read this post this morning and thought about it all day at school before I could come up with a knowledgable comment.

I agree with you (Dad and Mom) more than said commenters. Here's why. I'm a special education intern, soon to be (hopefully) employed, that is if the economy doesn't tank hard. I have many BBoW students and yes, you can understand certain phrases they say, but they certainly aren't able to talk full sentences on every topic out there, hence their BBoW. Part of the reason they're so good at those 12 or so words is they have worked for HOURS in speech on certain sounds, therefore, they are clearer. But saying "hi" or "(their name/age)" will not get them far. Which is why I don't understand all these folks saying, wow, Shuyler can talk! Yes, yes she can (and those words are really clear), but not really. Oh, and can I just add, she is a total beast on her BBoW. I couldn't believe how fast she typed in her sentence, we're still in the learning phase with my kids, so they're a bit slower. I also loved how cool she was using her BBoW in public, another thing we're working on.

Good job Schuyler!

Unknown said...

I totally get what people are saying about "stock phrases" - that being able to say a couple of words isn't the same as being able to communicate fluently! (Otherwise I'd be fluent in 5 or 6 languages instead of, er, one.) But I remain impressed at how clear Schuyler's stock phrases are for random strangers on the internet to understand, and that's what I meant to say originally. Delight at how far she's come, no intent to minimise the disability.

Thank you for posting the mall video. It gives a much better idea of the issues in everyday life - the noise in the background for one, and the fact that even though you were focused on talking to her, it's impossible to be 100% focused on a single person when you're in a busy, noisy environment with lots of other people and distractions around. It seemed to me in the second video that Schuyler got frustrated quite quickly with having to communicate abstract concepts in speech - I wondered if she held up the BBOW as if to ask "Why are you making me say things?".

The second video brings up an interesting point about using the BBOW. Obviously it works perfectly well for communication when the user is sitting down and has time to prepare answers, but it's rather impractical to try to balance it as you're walking along - especially if once again, you're in the mall, it's noisy and you're weaving in and out of other people who seem oblivious to your existence. The time delay in replying could also get really annoying for the people involved - as the user has to find and select the words rather than just being able to say them. I don't know what the answer to that is apart from everyone who is able to trying to learn sign language :/ I suppose as Schuyler gets older and the technology gets better she could assemble a list of all the sentences she might ever want to say in a hurry, but that could be quite some undertaking. Hmmm.

Anonymous said...

In totally unrelated news, over here in Florida four men were the focus of a water search, as their boat never returned to the dock from whence it came. They started searching yesterday. Today, they found one of the men, and he is alive, which is amazing considering the temperature of the water and the conditions in the area during the time it took to search. I like to think he got the save because he shares his last name with Schuyler's first name.

Anonymous said...

I was one of the original commenters of the "Wow, Schuyler's a lot clearer than I thought" camp, but I certainly didn't mean it to minimize her disability. I was just under the impression that *everything* she said, context or not, was "in Martian" and unintelligble to anyone but Mom or Dad. I was delighted to see that this was not the case.

While I said what I said in a "Yeay, Schuyler!" type of way, I still understand the mourning you must feel, Rob, that she can't communicate anything beyond rote phrases. I do understand that communication goes far, far, beyond "Good Morning!"

Yet what I joy it must be to hear that sweet little voice utter that phrase. It made me smile.

Great discussion from all the commenters.

Anonymous said...

One of the many reasons I come to this blog is for the insightful and the (usually) respectful dialog that happens here. Thanks for the follow up on the comments. As I was reading them I sort of cringed just because I've been there so many times in my interactions with our friends and families. I have a deaf and severely apraxic child, and like you and Julie, I prefer to size the monster up head on. That's the only way to go!

Anonymous said...

I've only scanned the comments so I apologize if this has been said a bunch of times... but as well as context, there's also some really common phrases and words that can be expressed by sounds and you don't need the words. You can very clearly say "I don't know" without opening your mouth... you just make the tune without the words and everyone knows what it is because the "song" is what everyone hears anyway. The same with some of the other things that were really easy to understand her saying. So yeah, it's easy to say you understand what she's saying, but I think it was more the tune was right rather than the words were right, if that makes sense.

I've often wished you would post some video of her speaking or using the BBOW, so thank you for that. I've been reading for many years (don't think I've ever commented though) and found it really interesting. As much as you can write about things, sometimes seeing it helps you understand that much more.

mooserbeans said...

Rob you have started a wonderful dialogue. Navigating the world of disabilities is tricky. It is hard to praise progress without sounding trite. And sometimes it's hard to acknowledge how much more work is left. When I have conferences with parents I feel like I boost them with one hand and squash with the other.

I have a ten and half year old neurotypical daughter and am hit every might with the tirade of emotions and events of the day. It has to be hard for Schuyler to express herself especially when she is excited or upset. I can't imagine thaat navigating the big box of words is easy when she's mad or sad (I know you've talked about this before). I think you guys are so lucky to have each other. Thank you for being a reasonable open voice for parents of children with disabilities.

Anonymous said...

I too read the article about the football players/fishermen lost in Florida, and I immediately thought of Schuyler too - how could you not? I think you and Julie must have sensed her coolness before she was born to grace her with an equally cool name.

Thanks again for sharing the videos. Her ordering her food reminded me of a time when I was waiting tables and waited on a family with a little girl who signed. They told me she was able to hear, but couldn't speak (I think caused by a trach tube if memory serves me). I knew very little ASL from a college course I took, but signed and spoke to her as much as I could - she was so thrilled by my poor attempts! I love that it's old hat for Schuyler to order food with her BBOW, and that the servers have been so great there.

Anonymous said...

Regardless of anything, it is a joy to get to see Schuyler. Keep doing what it takes to raise our lovely daughter.

M.R.

sarsmile said...

Rob, if you ever have a chance to do a school update I'd love to hear how Schuyler is doing with things like reading and writing. I seem to remember writing was an issue because of difficulty with fine motor skills?

Down the line, the ability to write something down on a scrap of paper and show it to people might be useful for times when the BBOW is difficult to access. Or even a small computer/keyboard that will allow her to type things and then have them vocalized - there must be some version of that smaller than the BBOW, if you don't need the picture menus anymore?

I loved seeing the videos and how well she was able to get her points across using the variety of methods available to her. The BBOW is fabulous; but the more communication methods in your toolkit the better I would think.

Anonymous said...

Oops. That was "your" lovely daughter. Probably a Freudean slip.

M.R.

Anonymous said...

I deal with a mobility disability, and one of my peeves is how sensitive people get. To assume that "oh, I can understand her!" means "you have misrepresented yourself and your daughter" is a little much. We want inclusion, but the most positive, friendliest things people say are often seen as insensitive or ignorant, and that miscommunication shuts the whole relationship down right there. Then people are just afraid to say anything for fear they will be ostracized for using the wrong word, or not understanding what it's like to have a particular disability.

Robert Hudson said...

To assume that "oh, I can understand her!" means "you have misrepresented yourself and your daughter" is a little much.

Go back and actually READ, Laurie. "She is much more understandable than you have been making her sound in your descriptions" is the comment I was referring to. I don't think I was unclear; I actually quoted the entire comment.

I've got an idea for a new career. If I can figure out a way to monetize the act of asking people to go back and actually read what I wrote before making comments, I'd be flush with cash. I'm talking big, big money.

Anonymous said...

Yikes, this is where communicating online gets tricky! I did get confused with some comments quoted in italics and the one you quoted was not (which I didn't realize- thought that was a summary). I agree with your take on that one. And am glad to know that you were not grouping all of us who were just excited to hear the good morning, etc. in the first video under "accusing you of misrepresentation." Please stick with the writing career. ;)

Anonymous said...

Interestingly, I saw both posts at the same time.

While I did understand some of what she said, I noticed more her mannerisms and such than the speech.

I know she's 9, but if all i had to go on was that video which gives no clear indication of her height, I would have guessed her to be much younger, maybe 5-6, even without hearing her speak.

Keep the Positive Energy Flowing said...

I just found your blog and am eager to read your book. I think your daughter is adorable and am happy that she is progressing so well. I have a friend with a son who was diagnosed with Aspbergher's (sp?) and thanks to early intervention, no longer has it. I know that good parenting, early intervention and love can work miracles.

LF said...

Hi Rob
Only somewhat related I thought that you and other readers would find this Slate article about computers and voices interesting. I understand that the BBOW is aiming for the best technology available, and it was interesting to see from a totally different angle what some of the frustrations must be.
http://www.slate.com/id/2212800

I imagine that a kid has as an expressive a face as Schuyler does (as another commenter noted) could be particularly frustrated that her BBOW does not imitate human expression.

Does it? Can it "read" punctuation marks at the end of sentences?

Anonymous said...

Hi there
I watched Schyler's video and just loved her. I've worked with kids with autism and other communication problems for 25 years and relaying the reality of their communication deficits to others is so hard. It doesn't mean that we don't celebrate their progress or the beautiful individuals that they are, we certainly do. Being able to say "I love you" and "Good Morning" are great, and they are social, but the nuances and details in everyday communication are so much more than that, so much more that most of us can't even come close to explaining them. Schyler's expressive eyes and face say more than her "words" can.
Augmentative communication and assistive technology are wonderful tools that enhance people's lives and there is a temptation that being able to vocalize a few words and phrases lulls us into a complacency and may change our focus away from total communication that most kids need.
Keep up the good fight and that monster will stay at bay! Michele

Anonymous said...

Last spring my 3 year old suddenly went from speaking clearly and carefully (He. Talked. Like. Kirk!) to dropping all hard consonants in the middle of his words, and many at the ends of words.

Who knew that consonants were so critical? Um, you obviously.

My inlaws thought we were overreacting because of: "Did you hear that? He said 'Can I have more milk' just plain as day!"

No, what he said was "CahaaHAMohhhIl?" while pointing to his cup.

It's not remotely the same situation, but I quickly encountered this desire to smooth over the unpleasant truth and I can only imagine that the greater or more permanent the disability the more people want to wish it better.

But! What I actually came to post was this: Every time I see one of your videos I am struck by what a good writer and tuned-in father you are. Because Schuyler is exactly the sparkly, silly, intense and beautiful creature that you describe.

ps. "Yayyy grapes!" Is a phrase that is still in our family lexicon, some three or four years later. :-)